Thursday, October 8, 2015

There should be a "no gun" list



You know, increasingly we're seeing signs that psychologically disturbed individuals commit the multiple massacre crimes with guns that have been so disturbingly on the increase recently. Now, what I'm going to suggest doesn't do anything about the day-to-day crime-related gun violence that is taking a its own toll, neither does it do anything about domestic violence that leads to gun wounds and death.

No, this is about the multiple murders. Yes, there are background checks, supposedly. But I think that the psychological side of this issue could be implemented. If someone is on record as a) making threats, b) attempting or indicating a desire for suicide, c) expressing a desire to harm or injure another person, d) being a professed member of a group or groups that advocate violence toward a different group, e) having a psychological condition or having a family member with a known psychological condition, and f) writing a rambling manifesto expressing threats, endangerment, or hate for other people or groups -- their name should go on a basic "no gun" list. It means they can't buy guns and they can't have guns. If they have guns, they get taken away until they can show that they or the individual associated with them (with the psychological condition) pose no danger to the community.

So the "no gun" list would be the first list checked. If the name is on the list, they don't get a gun. If the name is on the list and they're found with a gun or guns, they get taken away. Simple.

Why'd I think of this?

Oregon shooter killed himself after being wounded by hero cops and was discharged from the Army after attempting suicide

This guy should never been allowed to have a gun. There should not have been any guns in his house. Period.

And Adam Lanza, the Newtown murderer.  There shouldn't have been any guns in a house he was living in.  He was an obvious danger to the community.

Plus, I think doctors are allowed to notify authorities if there is a danger to a person or the community. Well, in this case I think psychiatrists/psychologists/counselors should be able to put a name on the list with minimal delay.

Even the NRA admits that deranged people shouldn't have guns, even if the laws they've proposed have been self-serving. So why not have a simple "no gun" list?  If a name gets on it, then the person on it has to prove that they don't belong on it.  Because it has been demonstrated pretty conclusively that the mentally ill, members of extremist groups, people who make threats against members of other groups (this includes high school and college students) and authors of rambling manifestos which evince a profound disquietude and distrust of fellow humans are far more likely to commit mass murder with guns than people who are NOT mentally ill, members of extremist groups, or authors of rambling manifestos.

Mental health and firearms (I don't agree with them, but at least they admit the problem.)


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